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Brzeziński: That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter, essentially: “We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war." Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war that was unsustainable for the regime, a conflict that brought about the demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire.https://dgibbs.arizona.edu/content/brzezinski-interview-2

US Provoked the 1979 Russian Invasion of Afghanistan: Parallel to the Ukraine War? by David Gibbs
A reexamination of the 1979 Afghan case seems especially relevant today, given the obvious parallels to the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine. Indeed, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton declared that the US response to the invasion of Afghanistan offers a model of what US officials should seek to achieve in Ukraine. The similarities between the two historical cases are indeed striking: Above all, the 1979 Afghan invasion was widely viewed at the time as being an unprovoked act of aggression, very much the way that the Ukraine invasion is being viewed now. We will see that such claims are contradicted by the historical record. It was US provocation that triggered both conflicts. — https://original.antiwar.com/david-gibbs/2024/09/15/us-provoked-the-1979-russian-invasion-of-afghanistan-parallel-to-the-ukraine-war/
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Deliberately provoked. Interesting terminology apparently intended to shift blame for the war and its horrors.

Good technique to start with a particular characterization of the the war in Afghanistan then assert a parallel in Ukraine to justify the dubious argument's construction.

"We will see..." my ass.

Ukraine had a turbulent political history that included their feeling out a subservient relationship with Russia but one thing that clearly united their non-Russian citizenry, especially after the taking of Crimea, was the existential fear of being overrun and subsumed by Russia.

They could not effectively resist on their own and turned to the West as the only viable alternative for survival. While the West certainly had their own motivations it's absurd to suggest that the invasion happened only because of the Western presence or that without Western support Ukraine could have survived as an independent state able to make national decisions without fear of their immediate superpower neighbor's desire for regional hegemony.
Ask the Irish...

Yes, it's terrible for the people of Afghanistan and Ukraine, but the conflict is not about them.

It is the struggle for Eurasia, and it isn't new, though it is always dressed up differently.

We talk about the war in the Ukraine, but it would be better to talk about the Battle of Ukraine, as it is part of a bigger war.
'Who controls the heartland...'